Showing posts with label Prophecy. Show all posts
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Thursday, September 15, 2011

Once Saved, Always Saved" -- Really"

For over five years, I have been doing apologetic writing on the Religion Forum of our home town newspaper, the TimesDaily. I initially joined this forum because it was inundated and basically controlled by a handful of atheists, in alliance with a small number of other non-believers.

My purpose in joining the Religion Forum was two fold: First, to refute their non-Christian teachings. And, second, to make sure that readers (currently 11,000 plus loosely registered members -- and an untold number of folks who only come to the forum to read) get to read the truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ and the Word of God.

On the TimesDaily Forums, there are ten forums of differing interests. So, I will have to extrapolate to say that, on the Religion Forum, this being Alabama (belt buckle of the Bible Belt), we must get our share of readers.

One of the hot-button issues which immediately draws the ire and stones from my non-believing Forum Friends -- is my contention that salvation is by the grace of God, through faith in Jesus Christ -- plus nothing else.

Another "ire and stone attraction" is my belief that once a person has sincerely invited Jesus Christ into his/her heart, i.e., has become a true Christian believer -- that person has the personal promise of Jesus Christ that he/she HAS eternal life in Christ. In other words, the sincerely confessed believer HAS eternal security in Jesus Christ -- and will never lose that salvation. On most platforms this is loosely referred to as "once saved, always saved" -- or, on the Religion Forum, OSAS.

My non-believing Friends on the Religion Forum continue to challenge me to prove these beliefs. And, when I do offer Biblical foundation for my beliefs -- they refuse to hear it, they deny it, and they keep asking me, "Bill, you are always preaching OSAS. Prove it!"

Wee, gee whiz, fellows and gals -- I have shown you practically every Scripture verse in the Bible -- supported by commentary writings from many very knowledgeable pastors, theologians, and Bible scholars. Yet, you still demand, "Prove it!"

Of course, we all know that, "There is no so blind -- as he who will not see!"

Today, on the Hope Bible Institute Facebook page (a ministry of the Church of Hope, Laguna Woods, California, pastored by my long time Friend, Pastor Freddy Cortez) -- I viewed an amazing video about Free Grace Theology and what this means.

The video is from the Free Grace Alliance and the speaker is Dr. Charlie Bing -- one of the best speakers I have heard in a long time. Dr. Bing, Founder, Director, and past President of Free Grace Alliance, earned his Th.M. and Ph.D. from Dallas Theological Seminary. He pastored Burleson Bible Church in Texas for 19 years before transitioning to GraceLife full-time in 2005. He has served as Adjunct Professor of Biblical Studies for LeTourneau University since 1992. He is active as a speaker for churches and conferences in the United States and abroad and has published a number of books and articles on the gospel, salvation, evangelism, and discipleship

In this video, Dr. Bing gives one of the best explanations of Free Grace and Salvation Through Faith Alone, plus giving Biblical support for Eternal Assurance in Jesus Christ, that I have heard. Immediately, I realized that I want to share this video, this eternally important message -- with all my Friends. The video is about 48 minutes long; so, get a cup of coffee, kick back, and grow in your faith and assurance of eternal life in Christ.

Intro to Free Grace: Dr. Charlie Bing
From Free Grace Alliance
http://vimeo.com/2919716

And, visiting Dr. Bing's ministry web site, GraceLife Ministries http://www.gracelife.org/aboutus.asp I find that his Statement of Faith aligns perfectly with my own Statement of Beliefs and, what I have been writing for the past twenty years -- what I have presented during the past twelve years in my Friends Ministry enewsletters -- what I shared on The Conservative Voice for three years -- and the message I have shared for over five years on the TimesDaily Religion forum.

GraceLife Statement of Faith:

We believe that there is one God eternally existing in three persons: The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

We believe that the Bible is God's authoritative written revelation to man. We believe in the verbal plenary inspiration of the Scriptures and that they are without error in the original manuscripts. Scripture should be interpreted according to its historical, grammatical, and normal sense.

We believe in the deity of Jesus Christ, that he also took on humanity at His virgin birth, lived a sinless life, performed miracles, died on the cross to provide for the redemption of all people, bodily rose from the grave, ascended into heaven, and presently is making intercession for us.

We believe in the personality and deity of the Holy Spirit, that He performs the miracle of new birth in an unbeliever and indwells believers enabling them to live a godly life.

We believe that man was created in the image of God, but because of sin was alienated from God.

We believe in the Gospel of Grace, that by simply and only believing in Jesus Christ alone for the eternal salvation made possible by His death and resurrection that our alienation can be removed and eternal life received.

We believe that once saved, the believer can never lose that salvation, and that it is therefore the privilege of everyone who believes to have assurance of salvation, which is not based on works but on the promises of God's Word.

We believe that we are not only saved from the penalty of sin by grace through faith, but we believe that we are also empowered by the Holy Spirit for daily living and victory over sin by grace through faith.

We believe in the Premillennial Return of Jesus Christ to earth in power and glory when He will establish the kingdom.

We believe in the Imminent Pretribulational Rapture of the church. We believe that following the rapture of the church, all believers will stand before the judgment seat of Christ where believers will appear to give an account for how their lives were lived as believers. We believe that faithfulness will be rewarded by Christ Himself and that special privileges in the millennial kingdom and eternity will be given to those believers who have lived their lives faithfully while loss of reward will be accorded to those who have not.

We believe those who reject Christ's offer of salvation will suffer eternal punishment in the Lake of Fire with the devil and his angels.

Do yourself a favor and view this complete video. As I said, get a cup of coffee, you may want to also have your Bible handy, sit back, relax, and truly listen to the message presented by Dr. Charlie Bing. His message is powerful.

Why should you take my word for this -- what are my credentials? I am only a born-again believer who opened the door of my heart to allow Jesus Christ to enter in 1987. Shortly after that, I began to do Christian writing -- in my own snail-mail newsletter "The Good News" -- writing tracts and church bulletin inserts -- and sharing wherever God presented the opportunity.

Twelve years ago, I began to study and write full time, sharing messages of Christian encouragement and being pulled more and more into apologetic writings. At the time, I did not consider myself an apologetic writer; only that I was responding to comments and questions sent to me by Friends.

My Friend, Pastor Ed Dacio, told me one day, "Brother Bill, you are an apologetic writer." Hmmm, I had never given any thought to a label of any sort -- just that when a Friend had a comment or question which needed an answer -- God had made it possible for me to have the time and resources to probe, research, study, contemplate, and seek an appropriate response.

Have I ever been wrong? You betcha! But, when I have found that my response was, in any way, erroneous or misleading -- I have sought to find the correct answer and submit that to my Friends.

I will say this. There have been times when I have been wrong in my interpretation of Biblical passages -- and, I pray that when this has happened, I have been, or am, able to correct that and move on. However, I do not believe I am wrong in my Doctrinal Beliefs, or my Statement of Beliefs -- which, as I said earlier, align very well with those shown above.

So, I pray that you will get as much from Dr. Bing's video message as I did -- and, that you have a better understanding of why I feel called to share such resources, along with my writings, to all my Friends.

If you find this useful, please feel free to share it with your Friends, Relatives, Associates, and Neighbors -- all your FRANs. Let's keep sharing God's Word and the Gospel of Jesus Christ with the world -- until He returns.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

Saturday, April 30, 2011

Purgatory And Hell - Biblical Or Not?

As Christian believers, we have all had God Moments, those moments when we know that the Holy Spirit is nudging us, telling us to do something a wee bit different than we had planned today. Well, recently I definitely had a God Moment, that time when the Holy Spirit suggested, "Bill, I want you to write this." No, this was not an inspiration such as the writers of the Bible had; but, inspiration such as all believers have -- whether to write something today, to do something special for another today, to do something special for the Lord today, etc.

What was my recent God Moment? A few weeks ago I received one of my regular magazines from a church whose theology I know is not in line with mainstream Christianity. I receive magazines from this church and several of its sister churches which spun out of the Worldwide Church of God (Herbert W. Armstrong) some years back. Their theology is skewed, but their knowledge of, and writings on, world events in light of the Bible is very good.

In this recent issue there is an article titled "What Is Hell?" This got my attention for I know that this group of churches believe in annihilationism for all non-believers, and that before the final judgment non-believers are given a second chance to believe. But, after the final judgment all non-believers will just be totally annihilated, gone, no more existence. Both the second chance and the annihilationism are totally against what the Bible teaches (Matthew 25:41,46) and, in a way, their annihilationism aligns with the atheist view that, after this life, there is nothing more. This church does believe in heaven, but, not hell.

When I read their article, I felt that I wanted to write about the Biblical teaching of heaven, hell, and salvation. But, I got busy with other things and let that thought slide to the back burner.

Then, the following week, I received an e-mail from a Christian sister in our church, Ruth. She wrote:

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Hello Brother Bill, Thank you for your e-mails and for your online ministry. I learn from them and I have also shared some of them with my friends (some are Roman Catholic) who I know will be interested and will benefit from what you write. I want to ask a favor. Last weekend, I was with two college classmates from the Philippines. They are Roman Catholic.

They know I'm a Christian and when we were driving, one asked me about purgatory. I told her that it is not in the Bible and that only Christ can save. She also asked about Abraham's Bosom. I wanted to give her some Bible references. But, I couldn't think of them at that time.

And my other classmate said, "I believe that there is no hell." I told her there is; it's in the Bible. I even asked her where does she thinks Hitler is right now? Then the topic was changed.

Through the course of the day I did share on and off about God's love and Christ's salvation in my life, but did not focus on purgatory and hell. I was wondering if you can give a Biblical explanation of hell and purgatory so that I can share it with them. I know you have lots of writing to do for your ministry, so just do it only when you have the time. Thank you and may the Lord bless you and Ate Dory as you continue spreading His Good News.

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This was my Holy Spirit nudge!

By the way, for my non-Filipino Friends, "Ate" in Tagalog means "older sister" -- a term of respect.

In the Christian community, in the fringe communities, and in the cult and world religions communities -- there are many views of heaven and hell. In this writing, I will focus mostly on hell. When I was much younger and was not yet a Christian, but, still felt that inner urge which God instills in every human being to seek Him -- I wanted to find a church which would tell me there is no hell. Why? Because if there is no hell, then I could go to church on Sunday -- and live like hell the rest of the week.

I found a chaplain, from a major denominational church, at Bergstrom Air Force Base in Austin, Texas, who assured me that hell is only a myth. Wow! What a relief! Party time!

I now believe that this was only his own personal view and not that of his denomination; for I have found that most churches who do not believe in hell -- also do not believe in the Trinity. And, his denomination holds a trinitarian belief.

But, the trend which is becoming more prevalent in many Liberal Theology churches, and in the "Feel Good" Theology churches, varies from just not talking about "hell" because it makes folks uncomfortable -- to actually denying that hell is real. The thought of hell sure made me uncomfortable before I was a Christian -- so, I can relate to why many people flock to the "Feel Good" churches. You know the old story -- give God an hour in church on Sunday morning; then, do your own thing the rest of the week.

Currently, a major controversy is flying all over the cyberworld because of a book written by Rob Bell, pastor of the Mars Hill Church of Grandville, Michigan. The book is "Love Wins: A Book About Heaven, Hell, and the Fate of Every Person Who Has Ever Lived." And, while, in many interviews Rob Bell denies being a Universalist (everyone goes to heaven) -- his own promotional video makes it clear that he does not believe nor teach that non-believers are destined to spend eternity in hell, nor that salvation is found only through Jesus Christ. http://vimeo.com/20272585

In this video Rob Bell tells us that, if Jesus saves us from hell -- that means that Jesus is saving us from God. And, as Rob Bell says, "What kind of God is that?" Apparently Rob Bell and I do not read the same Bible; for in my Bible Jesus Christ tells me, "I am the Way, and the Truth, and the Life; no one comes to the Father but through Me" (John 14:6).

Can a person be saved without having a personal relationship with Jesus Christ? In 1 John 5:12 we read, "He who has the Son has the life; he who does not have the Son of God -- does not have the life." What is "the life" this verse is talking about? It is eternal life in the presence of God. And, this Scripture verse is clearly telling us that anyone who does not have the Son, Jesus Christ; who does not have a personal relationship with the Son, Jesus Christ -- does not have eternal life with God. What else is left? Only eternal life in hell.

How can a person have a personal, saving relationship with Jesus Christ? Jesus Himself tells us, "Behold, I stand at the door and knock; if anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and will dine with him, and he with Me" (Revelation 3:20).

In the Jewish culture of Jesus' day, the most intimate thing a person could do with friends was to dine with them. Jesus is telling everyone, "If you will open the door of your heart, I will come in and dine with you. I will be your very intimate Friend." But, He cannot open the door of your heart.

Picture a door with no door knob on the outside; the only way to open that door is from the inside, within you. However, when you do open the door of your heart and invite Him to come in, He will not hesitate. From that moment, you will have eternal life in Christ (John 6:47).

All a non-believer has to do to have eternal life in Christ -- is to acknowledge Him, believe that He came, died, and resurrected to make salvation and eternal life available to you. Believe that Jesus Christ is patiently waiting, waiting to be invited into your heart, into your life, to be your very Best Friend -- and then, invite Him to come in.

Is it really that simple? Yes! If a person will sincerely open his/her heart and invite Jesus Christ to come in -- the Holy Spirit will indwell and seal this person (Ephesians 1:13, 4:30) until the day of redemption, i.e., for eternity. Ephesians 2:8-9 tells us that no one can earn eternal life in Christ through personal works, i.e., they cannot be righteous enough to earn entry into heaven (Isaiah 64:6). Yet, all can have eternal life in Christ. Ephesians 2:8-9 tells us salvation is a "gift" from God, a gift freely given to all who will, by grace, through faith -- believe and receive His gift. Yes, it is that simple.

John 10:27-28, "My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand." That is His promise to all of us who believe. All we have to do is, by grace, through faith -- believe, open the door, and invite Him to enter.

What happens to all people who choose to deny God, to deny Jesus Christ? What happens to all the people who have chosen to worship false gods in the many world religions which deny God, Jesus Christ, and the need to have a relationship with Him for salvation? In denying God; all of these people have chosen to condemn themselves to spend eternity outside the presence of God.

If not in the presence of God; then, what eternal destination is available to all who have chosen to spend eternity outside His presence? The only other eternal destination is hell. There is no other. Is God sending all those people to hell? No. They are sending themselves to hell by denying God and refusing His gift of eternal life.

Many Liberal Theology churches are teaching that there is no hell, that a loving God would not send anyone to eternal hell. For some reason, they cannot seem to understand what the Bible teaches -- that God sends no one to hell. Heaven or hell is a personal choice every person must make, individually. Everyone who goes to hell -- does so because this was his/her own personal choice.

The Unitarian Universalist church, a cult church, teaches that everyone, regardless of how you have lived, will eventually go to heaven. This is called Universalism, i.e., universal salvation, and denies the existence of hell. The basis for this belief is found in secular humanism and in personal worldly desires (much as I had before I was a believer and when I was looking for a "no hell" church). This teaching has absolutely no Biblical support.

We know that our Roman Catholic Friends believe in purgatory. What is purgatory? Is it real? Is it Biblical?

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Excerpts from the Roman Catholic apologetics and evangelization web site, Catholic Answers tell us:

PURGATORY ( http://www.catholic.com/library/Purgatory.asp )

The Catechism of the Catholic Church defines purgatory as a "purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven," which is experienced by those "who die in God's grace and friendship, but still imperfectly purified" (CCC 1030). The purification is necessary because, as Scripture teaches, nothing unclean will enter the presence of God in heaven (Rev. 21:27) and, while we may die with our mortal sins forgiven, there can still be many impurities in us, specifically venial sins and the temporal punishment due to sins already forgiven.

Two Judgments: When we die, we undergo what is called the particular, or individual, judgment. Scripture says that "it is appointed for men to die once, and after that comes judgment" (Heb. 9:27). We are judged instantly and receive our reward, for good or ill. We know at once what our final destiny will be.

At the end of time, when Jesus returns, there will come the general judgment to which the Bible refers, for example, in Matthew 25:31-32: "When the Son of man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne. Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate them one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats." In this general judgment all our sins will be publicly revealed (Luke 12:2–5).

Augustine said, in "The City of God," that "temporary punishments are suffered by some in this life only, by others after death, by others both now and then; but all of them before that last and strictest judgment" (21:13). It is between the particular and general judgments, then, that the soul is purified of the remaining consequences of sin: "I tell you, you will never get out till you have paid the very last copper" (Luke 12:59).

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Underline emphasis in the excerpts above are mine. In the excerpt above CCC 1030 is short for "Catechism of the Catholic Church 1030" which deals with The Final Purification, or Purgatory.

Biblically, there are several problems with the teaching of purgatory found in these Catechism excerpts.

First, is the claim that although we are forgiven -- we must still be purified, or cleansed, in purgatory through our own works or through the prayers of others. Yet, to the sinful thief on the cross who believed, Jesus said, "Today you will be with Me in Paradise" (Luke 23:43) Jesus doesn't tell him that after he spends time in purgatory, he will be forgiven, cleansed, and can then enter into Paradise. No, Jesus tells the repentant thief, "Today you will be with Me in Paradise!"

And, in John 19:30, Jesus declares, "It is finished." What is finished? His work of salvation has been finished; there is no more to be done. After His declaration of completion -- all who will, by grace, through faith, believe and receive His finished work HAS salvation into eternal life in Christ.

And, in John 17:4 (nkjv), in Jesus' intercessory prayer for His disciples, and for us, He prays to the Father, "I have glorified You on the earth. I have finished the work which You have given Me to do." His work of atonement, His work of salvation, was finished. The rest is up to each of us individually -- to accept or to reject that wonderful "gift" of eternal life.

1 John 1:7 tells us, ". . . the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin."

1 John 1:9 tells us, ". . . He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."

Since we have these promises of His cleansing for all who, by grace, through faith, have believed and received Him -- why would anyone need further cleansing or purging in a place called purgatory?

Second, is the misinterpretation, or the taking out of context Luke 12:59 to imply that this verse is speaking of suffering more in purgatory to gain purification.

In this Scripture passage found in Luke 12:54-59 Jesus is telling the gathered multitude of Jews (using an analogy familiar to them in their agricultural community) that they can tell from the clouds and the winds what kind of weather they will have -- but, cannot even recognize when their promised Messiah (the great Divider from Luke 12:49-53) has come into their midst.

Then, using their familiarity with judges -- He speaks of their practice of taking an opponent for judgment before a magistrate -- when they themselves still owe such a debt to God. And, because of this debt, they will be thrown into prison, i.e., spiritual prison. And, they will not be allowed out of that "spiritual prison" until they have paid the debt which their Messiah came to pay for them; a debt which they cannot pay even though it might only be equal to a widow's mite, a penny, or a cent.

The Greek word for the "cent" found in Luke 12:59 is "lepton" which is, according to Strong's Concordance, "a small brass coin, worth about a 1/5 of a cent." In other words, for such a small debt their eternal lives will be thrown away -- when their Messiah had come to "pay in full" all their debt and set them free into eternal life with God.

This, I believe, is a much more accurate understanding of Luke 12:59 than to say that it means that all "not quite forgiven" believers will have to spend time in purgatory to be forgiven for a debt which He has already "paid in full." It Is Finished!

Third, is their description and timing of the two judgments -- Particular Judgment and General Judgment.

The Catechism excerpt above sees the Scripture passage of Matthew 25:31-32 as the General Judgment, or final judgment. Yet, the judgment in this passage, which Jesus calls the "Sheep and Goat Judgment" (verse 32), happens at Christ's Second Coming when He will sit on His throne, the throne of David in Jerusalem, (verse 31) to establish His Millennial Kingdom on earth for 1000 years. This cannot be the final judgment for He still will reign on earth for 1000 years. The final judgment happens at the end of His 1000 year Millennial Reign (Revelation 20:4) and is called the Great White Throne Judgment (Revelation 20:11-15).

This Catechism excerpt tells us regarding the Particular Judgment, "We are judged instantly and receive our reward, for good or ill. We know at once what our final destiny will be."

We had better have that issue resolved BEFORE we die. There is no reason to wait until we have died -- to know if we are going to heaven or to hell. We CAN KNOW today if we are saved and have eternal life, eternal security, in Christ.

What does Scripture teach us about Eternal Security?

"Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes HAS eternal life" (John 6:47). Also, in John 3:16, ". . . but HAVE eternal life." And, in John 3:36, "He who believes in the Son HAS eternal life. . ." In John 5:24, ". . .he who hears My voice, and believes Him who sent Me, HAS eternal life."

How can there be any doubt that if one, by the grace of God, through faith in Jesus Christ (Ephesians 2:8), believes and receives Him (John 1:12) -- he/she HAS eternal life assured, through the personal promises of Jesus Christ. What can be more certain than, "He (she) who believes HAS eternal life"?

Every Christian believer can KNOW, in this life, that he/she has eternal life in Christ. There should be no doubt; for in doubt, how can there be eternal security in Christ? Always keep Romans 8:1 in mind and in your heart, "There is therefore now NO condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus." A person who, by grace, through faith, has believed -- HAS eternal life in Christ.

What does Scripture teach us about our moment of our mortal death?

2 Corinthians 5:6-8, "Therefore, being always of good courage, and knowing that while we are at home in the body we are absent from the Lord -- for we walk by faith, not by sight -- we are of good courage, I say, and prefer rather to be absent from the body and to be at home with the Lord."

Philippians 1:22-23, "But if I am to live on in the flesh, this will mean fruitful labor for me; and I do not know which to choose. But I am hard-pressed from both directions, having the desire to depart and be with Christ, for that is very much better."

These Scripture passages clearly tell us that, when a believer dies -- he/she is with Christ, is home with the Lord. After our last breath in this mortal body; our next breath will be in the presence of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.

But, if believers who die must first go into purgatory, and, if those Scripture passages above are true -- then, Jesus Christ will have to be in purgatory also, for us to be with Him. And, we know that is not true.

Jesus Christ ascended into heaven (Acts 1:9-11), is sitting at the right hand of God the Father (Hebrews 8:1, 10:12, 12:2, 1 Peter 3:22), is our only mediator between man and God (1 Timothy 2:5), and is continually interceding for all believers before the Father (Romans 8:34). Jesus Christ is not in purgatory; nor do we go to purgatory.

Some may ask, "Then, why did Lazarus and the rich man (Luke 16:19-31) not go directly into heaven -- but, instead they went into Hades?"

Yes, that is true -- for when Jesus taught about Lazarus and the rich man, He had not yet gone to the cross to buy our pardon, nor had He resurrected to assure our resurrection into eternal life. At that point people who died in faith did not go directly into heaven; but, like the Old Testament saints, went instead into the Bosom of Abraham, i.e., the Paradise side of Hades.

We read in Luke 16:19-31 that the rich man died and went into Hades/Torment, while Lazarus went into Hades/Paradise, which we also call the Bosom of Abraham. And, we read that there was no way for either to cross to the other side. Because Jesus Christ used Lazarus' name, we know that this is a true story and not a parable.

Study all of His parables -- and you will find a lesson wrapped around local customs and lifestyles, i.e., agriculture, local prejudices such as the Jews and the Samaritans, local dining habits, etc. -- but, in these parables, you will find no personal names. The story of Lazarus and the rich man is a true story.

Jesus told us, "I am the Way, and the Truth, and the Life; no one comes to the Father but through Me" (John 14:6). The Old Testament saints believed and looked forward to their Messiah. Upon their deaths, those who, by faith believed, went into Paradise, Abraham's Bosom, to await their Messiah. During His earthly ministry and until His death and resurrection, the same was true of all New Testament believers who died.

Yet, when He resurrected and led the captives, the saints in Paradise, free (Ephesians 4:8) and into heaven -- it can clearly be said that they were entering heaven through Jesus Christ. Since then, all believers, upon mortal death, immediately enter the presence of God through Jesus Christ. It can truly be said -- once we breathe our last breath in this mortal body, our next breath will be in the presence of our God.

When Christ died on the cross, He told the repentant thief, "Today you shall be with Me in Paradise" (Luke 23:43). Christ went into Hades/Paradise for three days, the thief went with Him. When He departed Hades/Paradise, He took those faithful believers, Old Testament believers, pre-resurrection New Testament believers who were in Paradise, and that thief who believed on the cross -- into heaven with Him (Ephesians 4:8).

From that moment on, the gates of Hades/Paradise were closed, out of business. In my mind, I see a sign posted on the gate of Hades/Paradise/Abraham's Bosom: "Moved To New Eternal Location -- Heaven"

Yet, the other side of Hades, Hades/Torment, was, and is still, open for business -- and, unfortunately, doing a brisk business. Those, like the rich man of Luke 16, and all non-believers who have died -- whether they were just vanilla-flavored non-believers, secularist, atheists, those in the many world religions, those in non-Christian churches, those in New Age and other false and cult religions -- are all still waiting in Hades/Torment for their resurrection into their eternal mortal bodies for final judgment.

This will happen after the 1000 year Millennial Reign of Jesus Christ on earth. All non-believers will then be resurrected from Hades/Torment into their new eternal, immortal bodies (Revelation 20:5) and will stand before Jesus Christ at the Great White Throne Judgment; their final judgment of punishment. From there they will be cast into the Lake of Fire, i.e., hell, for eternity (Revelation 20:11-15).

There WILL BE two judgments of believers and non-believers as the Roman Catholic Catechism teaches. But, not the two which it teaches. They teach a Particular Judgment immediately upon death -- when the person discovers his/her final destination. Yet, in their teaching, that person does not get to go into his final destination yet -- for he first has to go into Purgatory for cleansing.

The Bible teaches that all believers who have died in Christ, and all believers still alive, i.e., the universal or worldwide church or body of believers, will be Raptured (1 Thessalonians 4:13-18, 1 Corinthians 15:51-53, John 14:1-3, Revelation 4:1), given our immortal bodies, and taken into heaven.

There, all believers will stand before Christ at the Believer's Judgment, i.e., Bema Seat Judgment (2 Corinthians 5:10, 1 Corinthians 3:11-15, 1 Peter 5:4), a judgment of rewards. Yet, everyone who will be present at the Believer's Judgment will have known before death that they have eternal life in Christ.

At the Rapture, all believers (those still living and those who have died in Christ), all Old Testament and New Testament saints, will be resurrected into our immortal, glorified bodies when we meet the Lord in the clouds, or in the air (1 Thessalonians 4:13-18, 1 Corinthians 15:50-53). Roman Catholics do not believe in the Rapture which is taught in these passages -- for it conflicts with their teaching of purgatory.

Let's look at another aspect of the Roman Catholic teaching on purgatory:

The Catechism of the Catholic Church defines purgatory as a "purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven," which is experienced by those "who die in God's grace and friendship, but still imperfectly purified" (CCC 1030).

They teach that we need purgatory to make us clean enough to enter heaven. Yet, Isaiah 64:6 tells us that our righteousness, our works, are like filthy garments in the eyes of God. And, nowhere in Scripture are we told that we can cleanse those filthy garments, our righteousness. Then, how are we to enter heaven since nothing unrighteous, or unclean, can enter heaven (Revelation 21:27)?

No mortal man can ever be righteousness enough to enter God's heaven. So, Jesus Christ covers all believers with His righteousness; the blood of Christ becomes our righteousness -- for all who, by grace, through faith in Jesus Christ, believe and receive His gift of eternal life. Believers do not need the purification of the Roman Catholic Purgatory; for we have the righteous, perfect blood of Christ cleansing us. We are covered by His blood, His righteousness (Romans 3:24-25, 5:9, Ephesians 1:7, Revelation 1:5).

The Roman Catholic Catechism, in the excerpt above, tells us, "The purification is necessary because. . . there can still be many impurities in us, specifically venial sins and the temporal punishment due to sins already forgiven."

This teaches that we still have to receive punishment from God -- for sins which He has already forgiven. Yet, the Bible teaches "Therefore there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus" (Romans 8:1)

Who is "in Christ Jesus"? "But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name" (John 1:12). All who, by grace, through faith in Christ Jesus, have believed -- are "in Christ Jesus" -- and can rightfully claim the title of "forgiven sinner."

Romans 5:1, "Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ." Justified means that God has declared believers to be just, cleansed, because He has imputed, attributed, the righteousness of Jesus Christ to all believers. So, since there is "no condemnation" -- since we are "children of God" -- since we have been "justified" -- we have peace with God through our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. For such forgiven sinners -- there is no more punishment; for our sins, past, present, and future -- have been forgiven. And, we have His promise on this, "He who believes HAS eternal life" (John 6:47).

Believers will stand before Jesus Christ in the Believer's Judgment (often called the Bema Seat Judgment) which is a judgment, not of punishment, but of rewards. This judgment will occur during the seven year Tribulation when all believers have been raptured into heaven. During that seven years, there are two major events: the Believer's Judgment (2 Corinthians 5:10, 1 Corinthians 3:11-15) to prepare the Bride of Christ for her Bridegroom, and then, the Wedding Feast of the Lamb (Revelation 19:5--9).

At the Believer's Judgment, many believers will receive great rewards; others of us will receive few. However, the greatest reward -- which all believers are assured -- is that we WILL spend eternity in the presence of our God.

If hell and purgatory are true; we should find them in the Bible. Do we?

Hell (place of the dead): occurs 54 in the KJV, occurs 32 times in the NKJV, occurs 13 times in the NASB

Sheol (place of the dead): occurs 18 times in the NKJV, occurs 67 times in the NASB

Hades (hell, place of the dead): occurs 11 times in the NKJV, occurs 10 times in the NASB

Lake of Fire: occurs 4 times in the NASB, ccurs 4 times in the NKJV, occurs 4 times in the KJV

Purgatory: Not found in any of the Bible translations.

However, vague references to purgatory are found in the Apocrypha -- and some Bible passages have been mistakenly used in an attempt to justify the doctrine of purgatory. That, and the writings of the Popes and other church leaders, is the basis for the doctrine of purgatory:

Isaiah 4:4, "When the Lord has washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and purged the blood of Jerusalem from her midst, by the spirit of judgment and by the spirit of burning." In the Roman Catholic teaching, it is argued that this "spirit of burning" -- in this context, refers to the fires of judgment - a hint of the doctrine of purgatory.

Yet, this Scripture verse is clearly speaking of God's relationship with the nation, Israel -- and has nothing to do with the New Testament church. In my view, this passage in Isaiah 4:2-6 is God's promise to His people, Israel, that, although they will go through the fires of the Tribulation (Matthew 24:15-28, Revelation 6 - 19), the 70th Week of Daniel (Daniel 9:24-27), Jacob's Trouble or Distress (Jeremiah 30:7) -- He will bring the remnant of Israel through the "fire of tribulation" and, "In that day the Branch of the LORD (their Messiah) will be beautiful and glorious, and the fruit of the earth will be the pride and the adornment of the survivors of Israel" (Isaiah 4:2). This has nothing to do with the doctrine of purgatory.

2 Maccabees 12:43-44, "He then took up a collection among all his soldiers, amounting to two thousand silver drachmas, which he sent to Jerusalem to provide for an expiatory sacrifice. In doing this he acted in a very excellent and noble way, inasmuch as he had the resurrection of the dead in view; for if he were not expecting the fallen to rise again, it would have been useless and foolish to pray for them in death."

2 Maccabees 12:46, "Thus he made atonement for the dead that they might be freed from this sin."

There is no praying for the dead, wherever they are -- for their eternal destiny was sealed in this life. Once a person passes from this life into eternity -- there is no reason to pray for them. We see this proven in the true story Jesus told of Lazarus and the rich man in Luke 16:19-31. The choices made in this life determine our eternal home -- heaven or hell. And, there is no more reason to pray for those who have died. Spend your time praying for the living -- that, those who do not yet believe will turn from the world, and turn to follow Jesus Christ into eternal life.

King David fasted and prayed fervently for his infant son while the baby still lived. Once the baby died, David stopped praying, cleaned himself, and ate. There was nothing more he could do. Yet, he celebrated because he knew he would see his son again in heaven. In 2 Samuel 12:23 David says of his dead infant son, "But now he has died; why should I fast? Can I bring him back again? I will go to him, but he will not return to me."

And, that is how we should view death. Celebrate the "Home Going" of all our loved ones who died believing in Christ -- for we who are believers, as was David -- look forward to a glorious reunion in heaven where Jesus Christ will be the Host.

Mourn our loved ones and friends who died not knowing Jesus Christ -- for we shall never see them again. This should be great motivation for us to be sharing the Gospel will all our family and friends while there is still time for them to believe and receive His free gift of eternal life.

In closing, let me emphasize that a person's salvation is not determined by his/her belief about purgatory, for or against the doctrine of purgatory. A person's salvation is based only upon his/her relationship with Jesus Christ. And, our eternal security stands upon knowing that Christ's righteousness is imputed, attributed, to all who believe. No one is saved by a church. We are most often saved in a church, but not by a church, nor by its traditions and dogmas. We are saved only by having a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.

So, you may ask, then what does it matter if a person believes in purgatory or not? A Christian should always be able to rest in the knowledge of his/her own eternal security in Christ. How can a person have eternal security; how can a person have peace with God -- if that person does not KNOW if he is going to heaven or not? A person's salvation does not rest upon a belief or disbelief in purgatory. But, his/her eternal security most certainly does rest upon believing Jesus Christ when He tells us, "He who believes HAS eternal life" (John 6:47).

If you are a believer today -- trust our Lord enough to believe His promises. If you are not yet a believer -- know that your eternal destiny is resting upon your relationship, or lack of relationship, with Jesus Christ. Yes, you can wait to make a commitment to Him until after you have lived a worldly life. He will always welcome you and receive you into the kingdom of God -- at any time. But, can YOU say WHEN your last breath will occur?

What if it happens before you make that commitment? What if you have a sudden heart attack or are in a fatal accident -- and do not have time to invite Him to come in and be your Friend, your Savior; then, what will happen to you?

The Bible is very clear about that. Revelation 20:11-14 tell us about the Great White Throne Judgment for all non-believers, many who died before they had a chance to make that last minute commitment to Christ. This is their final judgment -- and YOU do NOT want to be standing in that judgment.

Revelation 20:15 tells us, with no doubt, what happens to all of those people who stand before Christ in the Great White Throne Judgment, "And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire." It is a foregone conclusion that the names of all who appear at this judgment are NOT in the Book of Life. That, my Friend, is the ticket to hell.

Don't let that happen to you. If you do not know enough about the Bible and God to make a decision today; at least, be smart enough to find a Christ-centered, Bible-teaching church and get involved with them, in fellowship and in Bible study. Learn from God's Written Word why it is so important for YOU to have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, today -- for no one is promised a tomorrow.

If I can help you find a church in your area; please contact me -- for hell is a reality, a reality I do not want you to experience.

To my sister in Christ, Ruth, and to all my Friends -- I realize that this writing is pretty long. Yet, the issues discussed are critical. Possibly eternal souls hang in the balance for some who are reading this right now. And, I would not want to stand before my Lord one day and have Him tell me, "Bill, you chose brevity in your writing to make some more comfortable; yet, others did not make a decision to follow Me -- for you did not fully explain what My Word teaches about heaven, hell, and salvation."

No, I would rather my Lord tell me, "Bill, you talked their ears off! But, they got the message -- and that person over there, he/she believed." That one person is worth any amount of work I might put into my writings -- and it is worth all the work YOU might put into reading them. Especially if that person is you, or a loved one, or a close friend -- or even someone you do not like that much. For in heaven -- we will ALL be loved ones!

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill Gray

Tuesday, October 5, 2010

Bible Translations - Which One?

On the TimesDaily Religion Forum, I began a discussion by asking the question, "Should We Interpret The Bible?" And, my Forum Friend, Tigrtrek replied, "Of course people should read the Bible and decide for themselves. (Does) 'Study to show thyself approved rightly dividing the word of truth' ring a bell? Don't let someone -- me, Bill, the Pope, Pat Robertson, or anyone tell you what it (the Bible) says. Read it yourself. And don't limit yourself to any one translation. I spent too many years blinded by a KJV-only bias."

Tigr, I agree with you completely that we should not limit ourselves to one specific Bible translation. Personally, my main Bible is the NASB; but, when doing an indepth study of a passage I will use the NASB, the NKJV, and sometimes the KJV. These are word for word translations and tend to be better for such studies. In my writings, I will sometimes use the NIV when it better expresses the thought I am trying to convey.

I stay away from all paraphrase Bibles, such as Peterson's "The Message." The paraphrase Bibles tend to be more just the author's interpretation and not a translation, i.e., it is closer to a commentary than a Bible translation. Another paraphrase Bible is "The Living Bible." On the title page, in the subtitle, it reads "Paraphrased, A Thought-for-Thought Translation." No, a Bible cannot be a "paraphrase" and, at the same time, be a "translation." Another paraphrase Bibles is the "Good News for Modern Man" -- also called Today's English Version.

The "New Living Translation" began as a redo of "The Living Bible" and would fall more into the category of the NIV.

In a discussion of the New Living Translation, we read at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Living_Translation :

"It has been suggested that this "thought-for-thought" methodology, while making the translation easier to understand, is less accurate than a literal (formal equivalence) method, and thus the New Living Translation may not be suitable for those wishing to undertake detailed study of the Bible."

I also stay away from the Amplified Bible for a similar reason -- the amplification tends to put it more into a commentary status. And, I tend to stay away from the "gender neutral" translations such as the TNIV. In my thinking, if God had intended the Bible to be gender neutral -- He would have authored it that way.

A very good Bible web site is the Blue Letter Bible: http://www.blueletterbible.org/index.cfm

The Blue Letter Bible web site has 12 English translations as well as Spanish, Latin Vulgate, Greek, and Hebrew. You can choose to view a verse in side by side translations for comparison -- or view a chapter in any of the available translations. The site offers Strong's Concordance for word studies, commentaries, Bible dictionary aids, and other great information to help in your Bible study.

Like you, Tigr, I am a wee bit uneasy when someone tells me that we must use only the KJV Bible. And, I agree with you that we must never allow anyone, myself included, to dictate to us what a Scripture verse or passage means, i.e., that their interpretation is the absolute and only correct interpretation.

Yet, on the other hand, I will suggest to anyone who is a new believer, who is not yet mature in Biblical knowledge -- that you find someone who is mature and can mentor you. And, get involved in a good Bible study group -- and do not miss your church's Sunday School classes. I know that, in the church I attend, our Sunday School classes have always tended to be as interactive, challenging, and exciting as our Bible studies. This is an environment where we all can grow more mature in our personal knowledge of God's Word.

I recall my own situation the first few years I was a believer. My Bible knowledge was more on the "Kindergarten" level. In early 1991, during the "Operation Desert Storm" Gulf War, when Iraq set all the oil fields on fire and the scene was looking like Armageddon -- our Bible study leader, Tom Fletcher, began to talk about the Rapture, the Tribulation, etc.

And, I had no idea what he was talking about. Of course, I was not going to ask and show my Bible ignorance -- so, I just smiled and pretended to know what he meant. And, then, I began my own quest to understand End Times eschatology.

But, my point is that we all, when we are new Christian believers, need someone more mature in the Word to mentor us. I began reading Dr. J. Vernon McGee and other Bible teachers, listening as much as possible to KWVE Christian Radio, as well as attending Bible studies and Sunday School classes. I have attended Eschatology Conferences -- and, yes, I read the full set of "Left Behind" series books by Tim LaHaye and Jerry Jenkins -- and many other good books on eschatology.

I found mentors and learned from them. Some I soon outgrew, i.e., wanted more meat in my Biblical diet -- so, I moved on to other mentors. And, today, I am still learning -- and have built quite a nice personal library.

However, with all that said -- I have never met, heard, or read a Bible teacher, scholar, or theologian with whom I agree 100% of the time. I do as the apostle Paul tells us in Acts 17:11 -- I read, listen, etc., to my teachers -- consider what they have taught me -- and then, compare it with what I find in Scripture. And, from this -- I settle on what I believe this Scripture passage is teaching me.

Doing this, I feel that I am fairly well grounded in my theology and that I stand on a pretty solid theological foundation. Could I be wrong on some things? You bet! But, I will keep studying and learning until the day I breath my last breath in this mortal body or He comes to rapture me.

And, then, my real education will begin. Can you imagine having an eternity, all that time -- to continue learning? Do you doubt this is true? Consider this point. Only God knows everything and cannot learn.

If we could ever get to a point where we know everything and there is nothing more we can learn -- we would be Gods. Since we know this will never happen (Lucifer is good proof of this) -- then, we must keep learning even after we are in the eternal presence of God. Isn't that exciting? All of these issues which we are debating today, we will know -- and much more. Yes, exciting! I can hardly wait to begin working on my Advanced Degree!

If you have found this useful, please feel free to share it with your Friends, Relatives, Associates, and Neighbors -- all your FRANs. Let's all study to grow more mature in our knowledge of God's Word -- and then use that knowledge to share the Gospel with all the world -- until He returns.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill Gray

Monday, August 23, 2010

A Forum Friend Accuses
Pastor Chuck Smith Of Heresy!

With the "information explosion" we have witnessed on the internet over the past 10 to 15 years -- we must also keep in mind that, jut because it is written on the internet -- does not make it true. It is not the Gospel -- unless you are reading the Bible online.

Much of what we read online is the opinion of another person -- and could true or it could be based upon false statements and a desire to get even with someone, or to best another, or it could be written by someone who does not have full knowledge of the subject or the issue. So, with all we read on the internet -- the best advise is to remember that just because it is published online does NOT make it true.

The dialogue below is a great example of that. Someone wanting to defame Pastor Chuck Smith of Calvary Chapel of Costa Mesa has, it appears, purposely twisted what Pastor Chuck wrote in a book -- actually changing words -- to make his writing appear to say something different.

And, my Forum Friend, Beter, because I often quote Pastor Chuck's commentaries -- has tried to use this same false writing on the internet to declare Pastor Chuck a heretic. I suppose Beter feels that, if he can prove Pastor Chuck (my frequent reference source on Biblical issues) a heretic -- that, in turn, makes everything I write heretical.

Whenever we are sharing the Word of God with the unbelieving world, we will always have such burdens. We just have to look past the ones throwing stones -- to those standing behind who may read and who may be ready to allow seeds of salvation to be planted in fertile soil.

We stand on the words of our Lord and Savior, "If the world hates you, you know that it has hated Me before it hated you" (John 15:18). So, the rocks they throw are not bullets of destruction -- but, rather, they are Badges of Honor.

Grab your Full Armor of God (Ephesians 6:10-20) and join in the battle! Start by sharing this with your Friends, Relatives, Associates, and Neighbors -- all your FRANs. Let's keep sharing the Word of God, the Gospel of Jesus Christ -- until He returns.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill Gray

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In the discussion titled "The Holy Way" -- our Friend, Beter, takes a broadside swipe at Pastor Chuck Smith of Calvary Chapel of Costa Mesa, California. And, this from a person whose tells us he/she is "Better Than You" -- i.e., the posting name BeternU. Personally, I do not think I am better than anyone else. I may be more blessed because I am a Christian believer -- but, I certainly am not "better than you." Only Jesus Christ can claim that title -- for He, indeed, is better than any of us.

Beter wrote, "Bill Gray -- I got yer Pastor Chuck Smith/Calvary Temple right heah! The man is a flaming false prophet. Per Wickipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calvary_Chapel:

Return of Christ in 1981: During the late 1970s and early 1980s, Chuck Smith wrote and published a prophetic timeline that predicted the Rapture would occur in 1981"


Beter, my Friend, normally, this is something I would not say to another Forum member -- but, my Friend, what you have written is a complete lie. And, the Wikipedia source you show states this disclaimer: "The neutrality of this article is disputed."

While that article does not disclose the name of the author; it could be one or more of a number of different people who have been asked to leave Calvary Chapel. An example is John Wimber who began to turn heavily toward Pentecostalism and got involved in such heretical teachings as Holy Laughter and other non-Biblical teachings. Pastor Chuck asked him to leave Calvary Chapel and Wimber started the Vineyard Churches, some of which are extreme Pentecostal.

Calvary Chapel has over 1100 churches worldwide, it is non-denominational, and calls itself a "movement" and not a denomination. Yet, if one of the churches which wears the Calvary Chapel name begins to teach beliefs other than those held by Calvary Chapel -- they will be asked to leave, just as was John Wimber. Last year, in their Annual Pastor's Conference, Pastor Chuck presented a White Paper in which he denounced the Emergent Church movement.

He asked all Calvary Chapel churches that choose to continue to follow the teachings of the Emergent Church movement to please remove Calvary Chapel from their name and to leave the Calvary Chapel movement. I applaud Pastor Chuck for this move to protect the integrity of Calvary Chapel and to assure that the teachings of all Calvary Chapel churches adhere to the previously established Statement of Faith of Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa.

By the way, I have absolutely no problem with the Statement of Beliefs of Calvary Chapel -- which mirrors my own personal Statement of Beliefs.

Yes, in leading a church movement for 45 years, a man will upset some and will make enemies. Obviously the person, or persons, who wrote this anonymous Wikipedia article is among that group. As I have always said -- if a pastor is not making some people uncomfortable with his messages and with his teachings -- he is obviously teaching a watered down, "feel good" Gospel. Pastor Chuck teaches the Gospel as it should be taught -- and, if that makes you uncomfortable -- you best look within yourself.

Now, Beter, let's look at the source of the statement you copy/pasted about Pastor Chuck Smith. This is the source, taken from a book written by Pastor Chuck Smith, that the anonymous author(s) used to write this untrue accusation:

This is from the References given for the Wikipedia article:

End Times: A Report on Future Survival, Chuck Smith, 1978 Smith, Chuck (1978). End Times: A Report on Future Survival. Maranatha House Publishers. pp. 35. ISBN 0-89337-011-8. "Jesus taught us that the generation which sees the 'budding of the fig tree,' the birth of the nation israel, will be the generation that sees the Lord's return. I believe that the generation of 1948 is the last generation. Since a generation of judgment is forty years and the Tribulation period lasts seven years, I believe the Lord could come back for His Church any time before the Tribulation starts, which would mean anytime before 1981. (1948+40+7=1981)"

In this article footnote you can see that Pastor Chuck has clearly written, "I believe the Lord could come back for His Church. . ." Notice that his says, "COULD come back" -- NOT "WOULD come back" -- as the anonymous writer(s) accused.

Beter, the statement you copy/pasted states: During the late 1970s and early 1980s, Chuck Smith wrote and published a prophetic timeline that predicted the Rapture would occur in 1981 Obviously the author of this article ignored his own footnote and changed "could" to "would." Are you willing to believe anything else this person will write?

Could Jesus Christ return and Rapture His church today? Absolutely! The return of Jesus Christ to rapture His church is imminent, meaning that it could happen at any moment -- or it may not happen for many years. We are told in Matthew 24:36-37, "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone. For the coming of the Son of Man will be just like the days of Noah."

And, we are warned, in Matthew 24:44 and in Luke 12:40 to be ready, "For this reason you also must be ready; for the Son of Man is coming at an hour when you do not think He will."

So, yes, Jesus Christ could come today. He could come before I have a chance to post this writing. If you get to read this writing on the Religion Forum; then He has not come back yet. The Rapture has not occurred.

Or, He may not come in my lifetime. All I can do is to be ready to greet Him when He does come for all believers at the Rapture.

What Pastor Chuck Smith wrote in 1978, that He could come before 1981 -- was absolutely correct. The main prophecy gating His return is the nation of Israel being reestablished as a nation in their homeland -- which occurred in 1948. Like Pastor Chuck, I, too, believe the time may be near.

I have heard him refute people who teach a specific time for the return of Christ to Rapture His church. But, at no time have I ever heard him predict or give a date for the Rapture. That would be anathema to Pastor Chuck -- for he believes the Bible.

Pastor Chuck has and will say that many of the signs for the return are evident today -- starting with the return of the nation Israel to their homeland. He will quote many prophecies which show signs of the coming Rapture. But, he has never played the "this is the day" game.

I have never attended Calvary Chapel; but, I have followed the teachings of Pastor Chuck Smith for the last 23 years -- and I have NEVER heard him teach anything such as you, or these writers, have accused him. There have been times when I have disagreed with his teaching; but, that does not mean that he is a heretical teacher as you would have people believe. As a matter of fact, I do not know any pastor or Bible teacher that I have not disagreed with at one time or another. That does not make them or me wrong -- it just makes us good Bereans.

Beter, I am not sure what hang-up you have; but, this time, my Friend, you have written and copy/pasted an accusation which is totally false. I am just curious. You come on the Religion Forum and blast the writings of everyone who professes faith in Jesus Christ -- are you a Christian believer? If so, what church (not the specific church, but the denomination, affiliation, etc.) do you attend? What Bible teacher do YOU trust to teach the truth?

Let's talk about Calvary Chapel and Pastor Chuck Smith. Pastor Chuck came to Calvary Chapel in Costa Mesa in 1965. At that time they had only about 20 members. Since then, Calvary Chapel has grown to over 1100 churches worldwide; many of them large enough in membership to be called megachurches. Why has Calvary Chapel had such phenomenal growth?

From the beginning, Pastor Chuck has always used expository Bible teaching, i.e., teaching through the Bible starting from Genesis 1:1 and teaching, verse by verse, all the way to Revelation 22:21. And, then, he starts all over again -- teaching through the Bible. Occasionally, he will take a break for a topical message -- but, the normal messages are expository. In this way, their teachings, and their theology, builds upon the complete Bible; not just chosen verses or passages.

As a comparison, Dr. Robert Schuller started the Garden Grove Community Church (now the Crystal Cathedral) the same year, 1965. What has he built? A huge glass cathedral dedicated to the memory of Robert Schuller? Since 1965, to the best of my knowledge, Robert Schuller's church has planted only two other churches, one for his son and one for his close associate, Dr. Leetsma -- both in affluent Orange County.

While in the same time period Pastor Chuck Smith and Calvary Chapel has planted over 1100 churches worldwide. And, most of the Calvary Chapels have Christian schools for the K-12 level -- and, many have Bible Colleges for the adult believers and those preparing for a life of ministry.

Why the great difference between these two ministries, both begun in adjacent Orange County communities, the same year, 1965 -- but, with drastically different results?

My personal belief is that it is because Robert Schuller is Reform, i.e., Calvinist -- and apparently their approach is to build bigger and prettier cathedrals, but, with no emphasis on evangelism. I spent several years in Schuller's church and never, not even once, did I hear or see an altar call being given. Why? Because the Calvinists teach that God chose, before the Creation, who will be saved and who will be lost to hell. Thus, no real reason for an altar call or evangelism, and, no real growth except among the affluent of Orange County who want to hear "feel good" sermons. Three churches in 45 years!

On the other hand, Pastor Chuck Smith's whole ministry is built upon evangelism -- sharing the Word of God with the unsaved and the unchurched of the world. He truly follows the teachings of Jesus Christ (Matthew 28:19-20, Acts 1:8, Mark 16:15) to take the Gospel to the whole world. And, Calvary Chapel has seen extraordinary spiritual and numerical growth over the years. Over 1100 churches in 45 years!

Calvary Chapel has spawned other church groups, i.e., Horizon Christian Fellowship out of San Diego which has over 100 churches in its group -- and Harvest Christian Fellowship in Riverside, California. We are all familiar with the Harvest Crusades which happen in cities all over America where millions have heard the Gospel taught by Pastor Greg Laurie. All of this started from the ministry of Pastor Chuck Smith who came to a church of 20 people in 1965. I would say that this man is indeed doing the work of God in sharing the Gospel to the world.

To learn more about Calvary Chapel and what they teach, visit this web site: http://www.calvarychapelcostamesa.com/

Visit Pastor Chuck's personal ministry web site: The Word For Today - http://www.twft.com/

Or, visit the web site of KWVE Christian Radio (107.9 FM): http://www.kwve.com/ You can listen to live broadcasts. I believe you will find the Pastor's Perspective Radio Talk Show very interesting. It is on from 3:00 PM to 4:00 PM, California time -- and you can call in on an 800 number to ask questions of Pastor Chuck and other pastors.

And, if you would like to find a Calvary Chapel near you, visit this web site: http://www.calvarychapel.com/

Beter, my Friend, you might do yourself a big favor if you will listen more closely to what Calvary Chapel and Pastor Chuck Smith teach. It could make an eternal difference in your life.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

Saturday, July 31, 2010

What Happens When A Believer Dies?

Have you ever had to explain to others, believers or non-believers, the Biblical teaching of what happens when a Christian believer dies? While many Christian believers do not share my belief in a PreTribulation Rapture; others will also argue that the believer goes to a temporary place, or that believers stay in the grave until Christ resurrects us just before taking all believers into eternity. Surprisingly, even among Christian believers -- there is great disagreement about this very important issue: What happens when the believer dies?

My Religion Forum Friend, B50, recently told us that she is a New Age/Christian/Wiccan -- so, it is not surprising that she is confused. The New Age and Wiccan world religions are polar opposites of Christianity. A person accepting the teachings of these world religions most likely will not be mature in Biblical knowledge. Otherwise, he/she could not be lured into those religions.

However, her question has given me an opportunity to explain Biblically what happens at death -- and the difference between a believer dying now and a believer who lives to see the Rapture occur.

If you find this useful, please feel free to share this dialogue with your Friends, Relatives, Associates, and Neighbors -- all your FRANs. Let's keep sharing the Gospel with the world -- and by sharing, help all of us grow spiritually and, daily, become more mature in our knowledge of God's Word. Until He returns; share the Gospel.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill Gray

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Hi to my Forum Friends,

In an earlier discussion titled "VPLee123....Thank you!" -- I wrote, "We believe, from the Bible, that when a believer dies -- he/she is immediately in the presence of Jesus Christ and God the Father."

And, B50 asks me, "I thought you had to wait for the Rapture, Bill. So heaven immediately or not?"

Good question! Glad you asked. True, for all Christian believers, upon death, the next moment they are alive in the presence of Jesus Christ -- more alive than ever before. Our mortal bodies are in the grave; but, our spirit, the true essence of all people -- will have a great "Home Coming" celebration -- and all Christ believing loved ones and friends who have gone on before -- will be standing with Jesus Christ -- to greet us -- to welcome us home!

Yes, Jesus Christ is coming one day, a day no one knows. This is why we call it imminent, for it could happen at any moment -- or it might not happen for many years. We just have to be ready (Luke 12:40). His coming will be in the air, in the clouds, and He will call all Christian believers, His church, His Bride, to join Him in the clouds (1 Thessalonians 4:13-18). This is the Rapture.

For all believers who have died in Christ, i.e, died being believers in Jesus Christ -- their mortal bodies will be in the grave; but their spirits are with the Lord. For all non-believers, their mortal bodies are in the grave; but, their spirits are in the Torment side of Hades -- where they will stay until they are resurrected to stand before Christ at the Great White Throne Judgment.

These Christian believers whose bodies are in the grave will rise, be resurrected, first. Then, a split second later, we who are still alive will join them in the air to meet our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. At this time, we all will receive our immortal bodies and will be like Him -- not divine, but in our immortal bodies (1 John 3:2).

Now this is a point where many people, believers and non-believers, will ask, "Bill, that works for those who died and were buried. But, what about people who were cremated? What about people who were eaten by animals, by sharks, etc. -- their bodies no longer exist. Their bodies are ashes or part of animal or fish waste. How can they be raised from the grave to be Raptured?"

That is a very valid question. Yet, we are told in Luke 12:6-7, "Are not five sparrows sold for two cents? Yet not one of them is forgotten before God. Indeed, the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Do not fear; you are more valuable than many sparrows."

God created us; God knows every hair on our head (for some, just a memory); God knows every cell which makes up our bodies -- for He created those cells, those bodies -- so, I have no doubt that, in His omniscience, in His omnipotence -- He will have no trouble bringing together all the required elements to create our immortals bodies.

Jesus, when He ascended into heaven, was in His immortal body with the nail scars and the sword scar still evident. After His resurrection, but, before His ascension -- he was in His immortal body which closely resembled His older mortal body. This is why He could eat with His apostles after His resurrection (John 21:12-15). We believers will have such an immortal body also at the Rapture (1 John 3:2).

So, to clarify: For believers who have already died, their bodies are in the grave -- but, their essence, their spirit, is in heaven. When Christ returns to Rapture His church -- their bodies will rise from the grave, or wherever, and will become immortal bodies, once again reunited with their essence, their spirit.

Then, a brief moment later, we believers who are still alive when Christ returns in the air to Rapture His church will rise -- we will not taste death -- but, will go to meet Him in the air to gain our immortal bodies.

Is this described in the Bible? Yes, in 1 Corinthians 15:49-54 we learn that we, our bodies, will be changed in the twinkling of an eye -- pretty quick -- from mortal to immortal, i.e., our glorified bodies. We we be in our glorified bodies just like Jesus Christ.

1 Corinthians 15:49-54, "Just as we have borne the image of the earthy (mortal), we will also bear the image of the heavenly (immortal). Now I say this, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.

Behold, I tell you a mystery; we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. For this perishable must put on the imperishable, and this mortal must put on immortality. But when this perishable will have put on the imperishable, and this mortal will have put on immortality, then will come about the saying that is written, "Death is swallowed up in victory."


And, in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18, we are told that we believers who are still alive, will be CAUGHT UP to meet Christ, our Lord, in the air. In the Greek language, the English phrase "will be caught up" is the word "harpazo" meaning: "to snatch out or away."

When the Pope commissioned Jerome to translate the Bible into Latin, the language favored by the Roman Catholic church, the Greek word "harpazo" became the Latin word "rapiemur" -- from which we get the English transliteration RAPTURE. So, yes, the word "Rapture" -- the prophecy of the Rapture -- and the description of the Rapture -- are all in the Bible.

1 Thessalonians 4:13-18, "But we do not want you to be uninformed, brethren, about those who are asleep, so that you will not grieve as do the rest who have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who have fallen asleep in Jesus. For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep.

For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord. Therefore comfort one another with these words."


Yes, B50, we have His, Jesus Christ's, promises of eternal life for all who believe (Matthew 19:29, John 3:15, John 3:16, John 3:36, John 4:14, John 5:24, John 6:40, John 6:47, John 6:54, John 10:28).

And, the apostle John writes to us in John 20:30-31, "Therefore many other signs Jesus also performed in the presence of the disciples, which are not written in this book; but these have been written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing you may have life in His name."

So, yes, eternal life in Christ is assured, by Jesus Christ Himself, for ALL who, by grace, through faith, believe in Him and receive His "free gift" of eternal life. Based upon His promises, we have eternal security in Him -- and whether we die before He comes to Rapture His church, or whether we are still alive -- ALL believers will be Raptured to be with Him forever.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

Saturday, June 19, 2010

Prophecy And The Rest Of The Bible

Earlier, I wrote an article titled "When Is The Bible Literal And When Is it Symbolic?" and posted it on the TimesDaily Religion Forum. As you might expect, I have had a few responses -- from believers and from my atheist Friends. The one below seemed to be a good segue into talking about prophecy.

If you find this useful, please feel free to share it with your Friends, Relatives, Associates, and Neighbors -- all your FRANs. Let's keep sharing His Gospel with the world -- and looking forward to His imminent return.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill Gray

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Hi Tigrtrek,

You tell us, "Making a determination of what's literal and what's symbolic is part of what is called rightly dividing the word of truth. When the Bible says that Jesus is the stone that the builders rejected it does not literally mean he is a rock. This is easy to pick out, but prophecy, which is largely symbolic, is more open to interpretation.

Many people dedicate their lives to studying prophecy and still don't have all the answers. I prefer to focus on the Gospels, the Epistles and the Old Testament. Whatever the future holds God will work out."


That is a good example of Biblical allegory -- Jesus the Rock. Thank you.

Like you, I enjoy the Gospels, Epistles, and the Old Testament. However, since about 30% of the Bible is prophecy -- how can we not focus on this? True, many people spend their lives studying prophecy -- but, that does not mean that we lay people should not also study it.

Often times, the Holy Spirit will give us a special insight when studying His Word. I remember, about twenty years ago, when I first began to study the End Times prophecies -- I was totally confused about who would be in the Millennial Kingdom and where would Satan, who had been locked in the abyss for one thousand years, raise his large army of non-believers to do battle against Jesus Christ and the holy city, Jerusalem.

One afternoon, as I was driving home from work, I was sitting at a traffic light. My mind was on the traffic light and getting home; not on the book of Revelation or even the Bible. Yet, all of a sudden, a thought came into my mind: When Jesus Christ returns at the end of the seven year Tribulation -- even though many, many people will have been killed by the Antichrist -- there will be many people who have survived the horrible Tribulation. This group will consist of both believers and non-believers.

These people will stand in judgment before Jesus Christ -- the Sheep and Goat Judgment found in Matthew 25:31-46 for the Gentile nations, and the Judgment of Israel found in Ezekiel 20:32-38 for the Jews. Those who are not believers will "go away into eternal punishment" (Matthew 25:46). To those who are believers, He will say, "Come, you who are blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you. . ." (Matthew 25:34). That kingdom is His Millennial Kingdom -- and, later, the eternal kingdom.

And, to the Jews, He will say, "'And I will bring you into the wilderness of the peoples, and there I will enter into judgment with you face to face. As I entered into judgment with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so I will enter into judgment with you,' declares the Lord GOD. 'I will make you pass under the rod, and I will bring you into the bond of the covenant'" (Ezekiel
20:35-37)

This will be the remnant of Israel, His chosen people, who, with the believers from the Sheep and Goat Judgment, will enter the Millennial Kingdom, God's Kingdom on earth, in their mortal bodies.

So, the inhabitants of the Millennial Kingdom, ruled by Jesus Christ from the throne of David in Jerusalem, will consist of the Raptured church and the Old Testament saints in our immortal bodies -- and the believers who survive the Tribulation, both Jew and Gentile, in their mortal bodies. Those in their mortal bodies will continue to marry and bear children.

During the Millennial Kingdom, Satan will be locked in the abyss, so his demonic temptations will not exist on earth for that one thousand years. Those who enter the Millennial Kingdom will be believers. Yet, they and those born during the Millennial Kingdom will still bear the sin curse of Adam, they will have the Adamic sin nature curse. Only death or the Rapture can remove this curse.

And, having this sin nature -- the only way to have eternal salvation is still through Jesus Christ. Keep in mind -- He is the ONLY Way to God the Father. So, the people born during the Millennial Kingdom will still have to confess Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior to be saved.

Even though the Satanic influence has been removed for one thousand years; there will still be people born during this time who will, for whatever reason, not invite Jesus Christ to be their Lord and Savior. These people will not be causing death and destruction as we have on earth today -- for Jesus Christ will be the ruler of this world. Yet, some will choose not to follow Him and will not receive His imputed righteousness.

When Satan is released from the abyss after one thousand years; these people who have not made a commitment to Jesus Christ will be easy prey for him, as he lures them into his army. This is the army which will come against Jesus Christ and the holy city at the end of the Millennial Kingdom -- and they will all be supernaturally destroyed (Revelation 20:7-10).

Now, did the Holy Spirit reveal all this to me that day as I sat at the traffic light? No. He revealed to me about the people, the Tribulation survivors, who will enter the Millennial Kingdom in their mortal bodies. This so piqued my interest that I began my study of the End Times and Revelation in earnest.

And, over the years, layer after layer has been peeled back, as the Holy Spirit revealed to me more and more knowledge of the End Times. You might say that, although I had already been studying End Times prophecy -- that traffic light revelation birthed my desire to really understand End Time prophecy.

Another example of the Holy Spirit leading as we study Scripture: For years I had tried to read the book of Job -- and could not get past chapter one. One evening I was sitting on my patio studying the book of John. A cross reference sent me to Job 42:10, "The LORD restored the fortunes of Job when he prayed for his friends, and the LORD increased all that Job had twofold."

Once again, my interest was piqued -- and I began to read Job. For whatever reason, that night reading Job was as easy as reading an interesting novel -- it just flowed. That night I read and had a fairly good understanding of the book of Job -- and have since led a Bible study on it. Who or what led me to Job 42:10 that night? The Holy Spirit, of course.

John 14:26, "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you."

Tigr, no part of the Bible is insignificant; but, most especially not God's revelations which He sends to us through His prophecies. Do not neglect 30% of His Written Word.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill